Skoda Octavia II 1.9 TDI vil ikke starte

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Skoda Octavia II 1.9 TDI vil ikke starte

Indlæg af ulrich_sorensen » 16. okt 2017, 07:02

Hej,

Min skoda er begyndt at drille. Har oplevet et par gange at den ikke vil starte eller at motoren døde mens jeg kørte. Starter og det kører fint og der er lys i kabine og instrument så det er ikke fordi der ikke er strøm på batteriet. Tænker det er en form for elektrisk problem. Har udlæst fejlkoder og der er en million fejl på enheder den ikke kan få fat i (se herunder). Kan heller ikke slette de fejl der ligger.

Nogen der har nogle ideer til hvad der kan være galt og hvor jeg skal starte med at lede? Det må være noget rimelig centralt siden der er så mange enheder man ikke kan kommunikere med. Tænker det er noget CAN bus måske et sted.

Mvh. Ulrich

Monday,16,October,2017,07:17:46:55941
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
http://www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: TMBGS61Z082036120 License Plate: YU53101
Mileage: 289510km-179893mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1Z (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 69 72 76

VIN: TMBGS61Z082036120 Mileage: 289510km-179893miles

01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0021121
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 73E5D1B2126FADDE87-8026

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
Part No SW: 1Z0 907 044 S HW: 1Z0 907 044 S
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 110 0402
Revision: 00110021 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 46835866317D6876F0-8012

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2202
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000005060762
Coding: 09888F030004140000110D000000000000097F075C000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 71E9DBBA68739FCE75-8024

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z1 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 140707 022 0601
Coding: 00055223
Shop #: WSC 73430

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 127
Mileage: 288644 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.70 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AA HW: 1K0 909 605 AA
Component: Q2 AIRBAG VW8 027 0900
Revision: 11027000 Serial number: 003B5D12GPMC
Coding: 0020786
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 6BD5C9D24A5F751E4F-803E

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME1B7A4116C

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME1B745A40E

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME0F2410661

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME0F2651502

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 74E7D2AE1761AAE69E-8020

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1Z0 920 842 D HW: 1Z0 920 842 D
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1612
Revision: V1612036 Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4349720
Coding: 0003101
Shop #: WSC 00464 204 21225
VCID: 387F269E4B890E8672-806C

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 127
Mileage: 288644 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 07:50:12


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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H07 0052
Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 140707F1000801
Coding: E9807F4E4002022302
Shop #: WSC 00464 204 21225
VCID: 306F1EBEA3F9D6C63A-8064

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 127
Mileage: 288644 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 07:50:12


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1Z0 920 842 D HW: 1Z0 920 842 D
Component: IMMO VD1 1612
Revision: V1612036 Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4349720
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 387F269E4B890E8672-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation Labels: 1K0-919-887-MFD2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 919 887 F
Component: Navigation 0030
Coding: 0000101
Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
VCID: 3C773A8E7FB122A696-8068

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D HW: 1T0 959 701 D
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1203
Coding: 0000246
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 387F269E4B890E8672-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H08 1901
Shop #: WSC 73430 000 90108
VCID: 35612FAA5C9BF3EE69-8060

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 288640 km
Temperature: 30.0°C
Voltage: 10.60 V
Voltage: 10.40 V


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0204
Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 80801A085283007F3F04050FC0084FD6907C00
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 0305817242CF9D5E97-8056

Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1Z0 951 171
Component: Innenraumueberw.005 4801
Coding: 00000000
Shop #: WSC 73430

Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H07 9001

Subsystem 7 - Component: NGS No Answer

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D HW: 1T0 959 702 D
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1203
Coding: 0000246
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 3979239A7083178E8D-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-095.lbl
Part No: 1K0 035 095 G
Component: Radio 0030
Coding: 0040400
Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
VCID: 2959F3DA8023A70EFD-807C

1 Fault Found:
00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93)
011 - Open Circuit

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 J HW: 1K0 959 703 J
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1201
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
VCID: 377D25A2469701FE7B-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 69: Trailer Labels: RETROFIT69.lbl
Part No SW: 5F0 05V 010 1 HW: 5F0 05V 010 1
Component: TOWBARMODULE ECS 0010
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 285FF6DE9B299E06E2-807C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 J HW: 1K0 959 704 J
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1201
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
VCID: 387F269E4B890E8672-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 1Z0-919-283.lbl
Part No SW: 1Z0 919 283 C HW: 1Z0 919 283 C
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H04 0020
Coding: 0010011
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 3E73308669AD30B6B8-806A

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:04)--------------------------
Monday,16,October,2017,07:31:03:55941
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.8.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20170721 DS276.2
http://www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: TMBGS61Z082036120 License Plate: YU53101
Mileage: 289510km-179893mi Repair Order:


Chassis Type: 1Z (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 69 72 76

VIN: TMBGS61Z082036120 Mileage: 289510km-179893miles

01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0021121
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 73E5D1B2126FADDE87-8026

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
Part No SW: 1Z0 907 044 S HW: 1Z0 907 044 S
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 110 0402
Revision: 00110021 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 46835866317D6876F0-8012

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2202
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000005060762
Coding: 09888F030004140000110D000000000000097F075C000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 71E9DBBA68739FCE75-8024

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Z1 955 119 C Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 140707 022 0601
Coding: 00055223
Shop #: WSC 73430

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 127
Mileage: 288644 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.70 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AA HW: 1K0 909 605 AA
Component: Q2 AIRBAG VW8 027 0900
Revision: 11027000 Serial number: 003B5D12GPMC
Coding: 0020786
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 6BD5C9D24A5F751E4F-803E

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME1B7A4116C

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME1B745A40E

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME0F2410661

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME0F2651502

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070
Coding: 0000042
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 74E7D2AE1761AAE69E-8020

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1Z0 920 842 D HW: 1Z0 920 842 D
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VD1 1612
Revision: V1612036 Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4349720
Coding: 0003101
Shop #: WSC 00464 204 21225
VCID: 387F269E4B890E8672-806C

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 8
Reset counter: 127
Mileage: 288644 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 07:50:12


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H07 0052
Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 140707F1000801
Coding: E9807F4E4002022302
Shop #: WSC 00464 204 21225
VCID: 306F1EBEA3F9D6C63A-8064

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 127
Mileage: 288644 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 07:50:12


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1Z0 920 842 D HW: 1Z0 920 842 D
Component: IMMO VD1 1612
Revision: V1612036 Serial number: SKZ7Z0G4349720
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 387F269E4B890E8672-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation Labels: 1K0-919-887-MFD2.lbl
Part No: 1K0 919 887 F
Component: Navigation 0030
Coding: 0000101
Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
VCID: 3C773A8E7FB122A696-8068

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D HW: 1T0 959 701 D
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1203
Coding: 0000246
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 387F269E4B890E8672-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H08 1901
Shop #: WSC 73430 000 90108
VCID: 35612FAA5C9BF3EE69-8060

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 288640 km
Temperature: 30.0°C
Voltage: 10.60 V
Voltage: 10.40 V


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0204
Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 80801A085283007F3F04050FC0084FD6907C00
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 0305817242CF9D5E97-8056

Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1Z0 951 171
Component: Innenraumueberw.005 4801
Coding: 00000000
Shop #: WSC 73430

Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H07 9001

Subsystem 7 - Component: NGS No Answer

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D HW: 1T0 959 702 D
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1203
Coding: 0000246
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 3979239A7083178E8D-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-095.lbl
Part No: 1K0 035 095 G
Component: Radio 0030
Coding: 0040400
Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
VCID: 2959F3DA8023A70EFD-807C

1 Fault Found:
00821 - Antenna 2 for Radio (R93)
011 - Open Circuit

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 J HW: 1K0 959 703 J
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1201
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
VCID: 377D25A2469701FE7B-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 69: Trailer Labels: RETROFIT69.lbl
Part No SW: 5F0 05V 010 1 HW: 5F0 05V 010 1
Component: TOWBARMODULE ECS 0010
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 285FF6DE9B299E06E2-807C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 J HW: 1K0 959 704 J
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1201
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 1012544
VCID: 387F269E4B890E8672-806C

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 1Z0-919-283.lbl
Part No SW: 1Z0 919 283 C HW: 1Z0 919 283 C
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H04 0020
Coding: 0010011
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 3E73308669AD30B6B8-806A

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:03)--------------------------

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Re: Skoda Octavia II 1.9 TDI vil ikke starte

Indlæg af GaSelle » 16. okt 2017, 08:22

Eell 109?

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Re: Skoda Octavia II 1.9 TDI vil ikke starte

Indlæg af Krog » 16. okt 2017, 08:24

Kan du ikke lige starte med at hjælpe dem du gerne vil have til at hjælpe dig? Fjern alle “adresser”, hvor der ingen fejlkoder er.
Dernæst så fortæl lidt mere om hvordan bilen opfører sig, er det kommet fra dag til dag eller over længere tid. Find selv på flere gode spørgsmål og besvar dem;-)
It’s better to be approximately right, rather than precisely wrong!!
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Re: Skoda Octavia II 1.9 TDI vil ikke starte

Indlæg af ulrich_sorensen » 16. okt 2017, 08:34

GaSelle skrev:Eell 109?
Tak for input og godt bud, men det er en Octavia II fra 2007 med BXE motor. Så vidt jeg kan læse har den ikke 109 relæ, men der sidder vidst en 370 ude i motorrummet som fungerer noget lignende. Har dog pt ikke et eldiagram så jeg er lidt handikappet.

Anyway, så har jeg taget relæet (der står 370 på det og part nummer 8D0 951 253) ud og målt på det og det klikker ikke. Nogen der har et eldiagram eller et link. Tror det er et multi purpose relæ så det kunne måske godt være skyld i problemerne.

Mvh. Ulrich

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Re: Skoda Octavia II 1.9 TDI vil ikke starte

Indlæg af ulrich_sorensen » 16. okt 2017, 19:47

Hej igen,

Hader når folk ikke skriver løsningen på deres problemer så andre kan få gavn af dem senere, så her er min løsning.

Jeg har skiftet relæet og nu kan den starte. Det er et 70 A relæ der leverer strøm til en hel række elektriske komponenter. Jeg kan efterfølgende se at en af de symptomer man kan se i instrumentet er at glødelampen ikke lyser hvis relæet er defekt. Desuden så vil man med en tester få fejl på alle de komponenter som relæet leverer strøm til.

Relæet koster kun 150 kr. ved VW.

Mvh. Ulrich

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